Petite question

Gibet a écrit:Je ne suis pas le joueur actif, mon striker se fait slammer, il dodge. Double réussite pour moi, il bouge d'une case, sur la case du ballon. Il tente de ramasser la balle, double réussite. Gagne t'il une action gratuite, qui accessoirement lui permet de marquer un strike dans le rush adverse...

azoxystrobin a écrit:Après ça se corse, parce que ça n'a jamais été répondu;
p32 dit que ton rush se termine lorsque ton équipe marque un but, mais
p39 dit deux fois que marquer un but met fin au rush en cours

Q: Can I score a Strike during my opponent’s Rush?
A: Yes.
D: This can happen a number of ways, none of which are
terribly common, but they do happen and can even be
planned for by cunning Coaches. This centres around the ball
scattering or being launched, and a player from the non-
Rushing team being in the way and doubling their catch. This
gives them a free action that must be taken immediately
and could be a Throw, which in turn could be a Strike - hence
scoring in their opponent’s Rush. So far, so good. This is all
fairly simple.
The two most common questions after this are what happens
to the ball and does this end the Rush? Well the ball is
relaunched, just as it is after any other Strike. It has to be
relaunched otherwise you can’t carry on.
Ending the Rush or not causes folk a bit more trouble, though
even this is pretty easy when you break it down. The original
player only loses the Rush if he would have done so anyway
(ie, if the opposing player had not caught the ball). So, if one of
his players dropped the ball which scattered into the opposing
player’s hands for the Strike then his Rush would have ended
because he just dropped the ball and lost possession. It ends
regardless of whether the opposing player scores a Strike or not.
On the other hand, if the ball is launched straight into
their opponent’s hands then the Rushing team never had
possession or even a chance to catch it, and so they cannot
have lost it. If the opposing player chooses to retain the ball
rather than throwing it then the Rush would just continue. If
they Throw a Strike then the ball is relaunched as always and
the Rush carries on. Similarly, if the ball is launched, bounces
off a Rushing Guard (or other Rushing player who is not
allowed to make an attempt to catch it) and into the hands of
an opponent then the Rushing team has never had possession
so they can’t have lost it. If a Rushing player knocks down an
opposing ball carrier and the ball scatters into the hands of
another opposing player then the Rushing team still never
had possession of the ball. Even if a Rushing Guard moves
into a hex containing a loose ball (a move that will scatter
the ball immediately) then the Rushing team never had
possession and so this will not end his Rush.

Renoferoce a écrit:Peut-on faire un ELAN lors d'une action gratuite ?

A Jack can move up to 1 hex before he makes a Throw, turning for free if he chooses to. He cannot Dash as part of this action (...)

azoxystrobin a écrit:élan n'est pas le terme le plus adapté non plus.

varag a écrit:c'est généreux contributeur bénévole qui a fait la traduction et "mettre le paquet" était déjà pris

Lamanzer a écrit:Salut à tous
Je ne suis pas d'accord avec mes collègues: si ton Striker se fait pousser sur la balle, il ne peut pas la ramasser.
P42 du bouquin anglais : "Picking up the ball must be part of any [players]'s action... [...]"
Se faire pousser sur la balle n'est pas une action, donc déviation.

Q: If a player that can carry the ball is pushed back into a
hex containing a loose ball do they have to try to pick it up?
If so, does this happen before or after the pushing player
chooses whether to follows up or not?
What happens if a player is pushed back onto the ball and
knocked down in that hex?

A: Yes, a model must always try to pick up the ball if they can.
This happens after any follow up. The ball scatters if you fall
onto it (however that happens) and does so after any pushing
player has followed up (or chosen not to).

D: Players don’t often get pushed back onto the ball as this is
giving away possession, but it can happen. Typically this is when
there is a large ruck with lots of players putting Threat Hexes on
each other. The thing to remember is that the ball cannot be in
the same hex as a player without that player holding it. To do so
would be to make things far more confusing than they need to
be. So, if a player enters a hex with the ball in they will always
try to pick it up if they can (and scatter if they fail), or scatter it
as they go through if they cannot pick it up.